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  Updated Chronological Timeline of the Great Tribulation -- after the New Light from July Watchtower

  by FusionTheism in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the july 15, 2015 study watchtower article entitled "your deliverance is getting near", along with the jw broadcasting video entitled "gerrit losch: fortified by "the prophetic word," and chapter 21 of the god's kingdom rules!

  book presented a large amount of new light or clarified understanding of the events of the great tribulation.. here i am presenting it in chronological order -- this is the governing body's updated chronological order of events for the time right before the great tribulation through armageddon:.

  the final sealing of the anointed occurs just prior to the outbreak of the tribulation.

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  Appreciate the update FusionTheism.
  

  I now understand Br. Splane's continual deer in the headlights look. He knows not where they are going nor where they have been.

  Frank
  
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  Attention JW lurkers: May JW TV broadcast demonstrates the GB's utter contempt for you (and all non-elite JWs)

  by sir82 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in may's "we will never solicit for money, but now we're going to solicit you for the next hour" broadcast, we kept hearing about all the "facts" that the gb would like for us to know.. hmm...what facts did they leave out?.

  -- $millions have been spent in out-of-court settlements of child abuse cases.

  -- $untold amounts are being spent on legal defense of wt policies related to child abuse.

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  The May broadcast is evidence that their claim of Jehovah's support is false. If God supported the Warwick project they would not need to ask for money it would be there in abundance. Humility would cause them to see this but humility is not a strong part of their makeup.

  Br. Morris' arrogance and his bad habit of denigrating individuals along with the humiliation thrown at Bethelites in the U.S. Zone meeting by another GB member is filthy. Christ's brothers do not behave as they do. By its fruit you will know the tree.

  Frank
  
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  Suggestions for Governing Body 2.0

  by FusionTheism in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i realize many people on here are very angry at the watchtower society and/or governing body for various reasons, many of which are likely justified, at least to some extent.

  i also can totally understand the cynicism and pessimism i see from certain ones regarding the leaders of the society.. i think one thing that's often forgotten or overlooked, however, is the fact that members of the governing body who've been "in the truth" for 30, 40, 50, 60 years, probably truly believe in this organization.

  in my opinion, it's more likely that they believe what they teach instead of being liars who are intentionally deceiving everyone.

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  It does not matter if the Governing Body members truly believe...so does the Pope.

  It does not matter if they are tweaking teachings here and there...the Catholic Church does the same.

  It does not matter what they believe or do. Why?

  Because they are HYPOCRITES who would rather back a lie than tell the truth.

  Because they are MANIPULATORS who will twist scripture to get their way.

  Because they are LIARS who claim to be what they are not.

  Because they epitomize the SCRIBES AND PHARISEES of the first century whose hearts were corrupted with their own image of greatness.

  Because they have made themselves into a god of brick and stone calling the works of men THE ORGANIZATION which must be obeyed as God himself.

  Twisted men who look in the mirror and see God himself.
  

  Frank
  
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  New video telling the R&F to be generous

  by Splash in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  bro sanderson has a 7 minute video up on their streaming website called "be willing to open your hand".. in it he tells us not to be "tight fisted" or "stingy" and later "regardless of how much we have or how little we have, we'll find something within our power to be able to do".

  we have the responsibility to imitate jehovah's generosity.. there's a bit about giving to one another when we see the need, which is nice, then he drops in how 20 years ago the canada branch committee asked the bethel family for donations to the disaster relief fund, and promptly raised over $10,000.

  i think that's pretty good going for those under a vow of poverty.. "the generous person will prosper" he says, then illustrates this using a made up story.

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  Something the current Governing Body will NEVER say:

  (Exodus 36:5-7) . . .: “The people are bringing much more than what the service needs for the work that Jehovah has commanded to be done.” 6 So Moses commanded that they should cause an announcement to pass through the camp, saying: “Men and women, do not produce any more stuff for the holy contribution.” With that the people were restrained from bringing it in. 7 And the stuff proved to be enough for all the work to be done, and more than enough."

  Their house has been abandoned to them. They have ripped off the publishers and dishonored God. And so they are left to grovel for pennies because too many of us are fed up with them!

  We are saying to the Governing Body, "No more stuff you workers of lawlessness!"

  Frank
  
  
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  Welfare and Witnesses

  by adjusted knowledge in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm ignorant to the social welfare programs outside the us, but listening to others i have to assume in europe it is more generous.

  i've not had deep personal conversation with active witnesses for nearly 20 years.

  last year i made contact with a family and some elders came to my house.

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  Steve2: I cannot recall ever reading or hearing that the organization has a "view" on whether a brother or sister should pioneer when on disability and/or unemployment allowances. Does anyone know if the organization has a stated position on the matter?

  This is not a regular pioneer experience but it may fit.
  

  The May broadcast had a video in which a husband and father gave up his job because his employer said he needed him to work on Sundays during the hours which happened to be the brother's Sunday meeting hours. According to the video though the brother could have attended a later Sunday meeting in another congregation he nonetheless chose to be fired than to not attend the Sunday meeting at his congregation.

  According to the video the unemployed brother failed to find employment, received unemployment benefits, and auxiliary pioneered during his free time.

  What got me was the fact that they highlighted the fact he chose to lose his job rather than to attend the Sunday meeting at another congregation. Extreme. How many brothers and sisters are at this moment struggling with the guilt of attending a meeting at another congregation for the sake of keeping their job?

  Many.
  
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  Br. Lett's Slight of Hand

  by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  nice try brother lett.

  you moved the cups around the table and thought we would not see the slight of hand you were handing us.

  you begged for money but you have failed to show yourself capable of handling the monies already provided .

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  Thanks for the input, guys and gals.

  So hard to see what we would prefer not be.

  Such is life.

  They have stabbed us in the back.
  
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  Br. Lett- the DISCREET Slave

  by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  br.

  lett you discarded your pinkie ring for the may broadcast.

  in the october broadcast (the first of the "historic" set of seven broadcasts by members of the governing body) you wore a pinkie ring.

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  This is the best damn source for New Lite that they could find anywhere.

  I agree Doc
  
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  Are you disfellowshipped? You are a victim of a PAGAN practice!

  by cappytan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you are excommunicated, a.k.a.

  disfellowshipped, from the organization, you are a victim of a pagan practice!.

  the faithful and discreet slave has said so!.

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  Thanks Cappytan.
  
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  ...Welcome To The Official Illuminati Website...

  by OUTLAW in

  1. social
  2. current

  .. i`ve just come across this... welcome to the official illuminati website.

  .................. click the link below... illuminati official website - illuminatiofficial.org | contact or .... .. is it real?.....is it bogus?....is it a joke?...

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  Regarding the pic in the opening post:

  1. The Governing Body members on JW Broadcasting sit in front of a blue screen with pointed lights.

  2. Historically the pyramid is very much associated with Jehovah's Witnesses.

  3. The May broadcasting program displayed a sunburst in one video section.

  Of course all that is coincidental! ;)
  
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  HELP FOR BR. LETT

  by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  br.

  lett, .

  if you will remember when fred franz set the 1975 date he taught that the actual end of the 6th 7000 year long creative day and the beginning of the 7th 7000 thousand year long day of rest was in fact after the creation of eve (meaning that the start of the count would be after eve's creation).

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  Br. Lett,

  If you will remember when Fred Franz set the 1975 date he taught that the actual end of the 6th 7000 year long creative day and the beginning of the 7th 7000 thousand year long day of rest was in fact after the creation of Eve (meaning that the start of the count would be after Eve's creation). He did not know when that occurred but he thought it not too long after Adam's creation, a few years perhaps. He also taught that the last 1000 years of the 7th day of rest would be the thousand year reign of Christ which would make the beginning of that last thousand years a significant signal that Armageddon was not far off. If this is getting complicated ask a Helper to review it with you.
  

  The Governing Body celebrated 100 years of Kingdom Rule in 2014 you all did a decent job on that btw. You made your point and got the publishers all excited about it, good job.

  But what happened to Fred Franz' 1975 date and the Eve's creation question? Need something new to give the publishers some added incentive to keep preaching and giving? Here it is:

  I suggest a Watchtower article reviewing Fred Franz' teaching on 1975 and Eve's creation date question. Then a second article pointing out the significant and frequent use of the number 40 in the Bible. Which might suggest that Adam, like Isaac, was forty years old when Eve was created and became his wife. This would mark 2015 as the 6000th year anniversary of Eve's creation (answering Franz' question) and the start of the last thousand years of the 7th day.
  

  1975 + 40 = 2015

  You could teach that mankind has finally entered the last thousand years of the 7th day proving that Armageddon is not far off. And that the building craze is just for that reason. Jehovah is speeding up the work because the thousand year reign on earth has begun making Armageddon and the return of the dead imminent.

  You could say: "2015 is a significant year in Bible prophecy. Christ is feeding his Faithful and Discreet Slave in order that he may in turn feed the sheep. Lett us go out and be joyful that the time is upon us. Lett us prepare for the paradise to come. The generation that will not pass away has already seen the end. The end of the 6000 years since Eve's creation and the beginning of the 7th creative day's last thousand years, marking the beginning of the thousand year reign on earth when Jehovah will put Christ's enemies under his feet!"

  Suggested music for the Watchtower study: Amazing Grace.

  Frank